By Nancy Matthis | Saturday, August 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Congress may confiscate every state pension fund into the bankrupt social security system. Indications that this strategy is being discussed in Washington have come in to us from several sources over the last few days.
Tonight, a correspondent who has just come home from a Tea Party Townhall Meeting in Salado, Texas with US Representative John Carter (R-Round Rock) issued the warning. She said, “Representative Carter informed the crowd that talk has been bandied about Congress to appropriate every state’s pension plans into the bankrupt Social Security System.” She is absolutely 100% sure that she understood him correctly.
Dear readers, please understand that we are bloggers, and not professional journalists. Our information comes from ordinary folk who do the best they can to understand the political scene. Ordinarily, this would seem so outrageous that we would wait to share the news until we could get more clarification. But the current administration has moved with such breathtaking swiftness to federalize private assets and plunge our country into socialism, that we feel the need to sound the alarm, just in case.
We’ll keep updating this post as we find out more.
It’s Not a New Idea
From the Friday, January 29, 1993 issue of the Washington Post we have this article (archived by the Seattle Times) — Budget Cuts Vs. Social Security — Tap Pension Funds Worth $4 Trillion, Panel Tells Clinton — Employers Sense Danger ‘Once They Get Taste Of This’:
A bipartisan government commission yesterday recommended to the Clinton administration that it launch an aggressive effort to tap the retirement funds of millions of Americans to help pay for rebuilding the nation’s roads, bridges and highways and give the economy a lift.
President Clinton has indicated past support for the concept, which would represent an unprecedented effort by the federal government to deal with its budget woes by turning to the more than $4 trillion in cash, stocks and other investments held by pension funds.
Some opponents in the pension industry, who worry about protecting retirees, said they fear Congress might revoke the generous tax treatment afforded pensions if they actively oppose the initiative.
The recommendations by the congressionally chartered Infrastructure Investment Commission, which has had the strong support of Senate Finance Committee Chairman Daniel Patrick Moynihan, D-N.Y., include establishing the National Infrastructure Corp. It would be a new government-sponsored corporation that would encourage at least $30 billion in investment by pension funds. Several billion dollars in seed money for the new corporation would come from a new energy tax now under consideration.
Energy tax. Sound familiar?
And two people who watched the Democratic convention in 1996 said:
I was absolutely horrified to hear the Democrats propose at their convention that the government should take money out of private pension funds to sink into yet more federal programs.
The Democrats have already raided the Social Security fund to pay for their unending government spending. We do not need them ruining our pension funds the same way!
This is another Democrat scheme to take even more of our money without having to face public opposition to tax increases. We already have to work over four months a year just to pay the taxes on our wages – we should not have to sacrifice our pensions, too!
Vote against the Democrats and Clinton while you still have money in your pension fund, or you may not have any pension fund left when you retire.
The Argentine government seized control of the private pension funds in that country last fall. At that time the Telegraph considered the possibility that other countries would follow suit — Argentina seizes pension funds to pay debts. Who’s next?, October 21st, 2008:
Here is a warning to us all. The Argentine state is taking control of the country’s privately-managed pension funds in a drastic move to raise cash.
Should we worry about our pensions?
It is a foretaste of what may happen across the world as governments discover that tax revenue, and discover that the bond markets are unwilling to plug the gap. The G7 states are already acquiring an unhealthy taste for the arbitrary seizure of private property….
10:19PM Full Metal Patriot — Congress is planning to raid EVERY state’s pension funds to prop up Social Security. This blogger has done some background research, and reminds us of earlier attempts to “redirect” retirement assets:
This rumor definitely caught my attention. After doing a little investigation, it looks like it’s entirely true. Last year, House Democrats were contemplating abolishing 401(k) tax breaks and redirecting those funds into a new system of government-controlled retirement accounts to which all workers would be forced to contribute. And more information about the Democrats’ immoral plans to ransack every American’s personal retirement has been reported on CNN, The Wall Street Journal, and Carolina Journal. Now that they control both houses of Congress and have a big-government socialist in the White House, it looks as though Democrats are ramping up their machinations.
Update August 23, 9:13AM: A reader sends this link, possible reason for the federal government to get into a fight with the states; from the Financial Times — Pension funds back buy-out fight over bank deals:
A coalition of large US state pension funds has backed the private equity industry’s opposition to new rules on takeovers of troubled lenders, saying the plan would have a “chilling effect” on attempts to revive the country’s banking system.
The warning by funds from states including New York, New Jersey and Oregon, which manage billions of dollars on behalf of public workers and are big investors in private equity, will strengthen the buy-out industry’s lobbying against the proposed measures….
Update August 23, 9:13AM: Canada Free Press — Government seizing your IRA and/or 401k and rolling it over into the bankrupt Social Security Administration: And Then They Came For My IRA:
….when one mentions the idea of this government seizing your IRA and/or 401k and rolling it over into the bankrupt Social Security Administration, the usual reaction — even after all the evidence of the last six months — is scoffing. “They wouldn’t dare,” I heard from one individual. “There would be a revolt,” said another. Still someone else commented, “If you think there was outrage over this health care bill, let them try that!”
Well, maybe, but given the arrogance of these Statists, that is a natural next step. It is one that has been floated before, and don’t think that it has gone away. Consider that individual retirement accounts, be they private or corporate, have been accumulated tax free. In the eyes of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al, that translates into you getting away with something. Somehow you got “free” money. We’re talking about accounts totaling hundreds of billions (possibly trillions) of dollars! Believe me, they’re salivating….
After what we have witnessed so far this year, anything is possible today in America. And even if they don’t actually do it, imagine how much windfall revenue would accrue to the federal government if the American people only thought they were going to do it. An executive for a large Midwestern company told me: “I would pull every dime out of my 401k, pay the taxes and penalties and stick the cash in my mattress before I would let those (expletive deleted) have it!”
Could that be the plan?
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And they won’t stop there. Last fall when everyone was caught up in the Trillion dollar raid on OUR treasury by Bush and Obama’s bandits Congress held hearings on a take over of all 401k accounts:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2008/10/24/obama-dems-seek-to-end-401-k-plans/
“Sen. Barack Obama’s Democratic allies in Congress are looking into a radical new plan that would fundamentally change the way Americans save for retirement. House Democrats recently heard testimony on the idea and, under a potential Obama administration, would likely move to put it in place. Democrats want to seize the money that workers currently invest in their 401(k) plans and replace the popular retirement savings accounts with a one-size-fits-all government sponsored retirement account. Under the scheme, Americans would be forced to transfer all of their hard earned retirement savings from their 401(k) to the government.”
Did you see the story about Mr. Change’s first employer? Barry worked for Business International Corporation, accused of functioning as a CIA front company.
CIA director Panetta confirmed as much in writing “Yes, he worked for us.”
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The coup has already occurred gang. Now they’re just shoveling up what’s left of our loose change.
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August 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am
first private , then state, then governmet, then retired veterans, then when all the money is gone it will be hyper inflation , then, hyper tax inrease, then debtors prison. i.e. slave labor. this global economy is great huh ? STAND UP AND FIGHT LIKE REAL AMERICANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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August 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
They can seize whatever they want and do whatever they choose. They know full well americans will do nothing to stop them- only some whining and a few PR stunts here & there abetted by the media. Small price to pay for such unimaginable spoils.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
SteveMT,
The thieves have thought all this out and have plenty of Mt Weather covers and havens. Can guns stand up to drones, F16s, microwave guns, ELF assaults?
Dont think for a second all we’ve allowed to be experimented on third world nations wont soon be used on us.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I would trust my dog more than I would the government to look after my pension fund. At least the dog couldn’t do anything with it.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Nancy, I hope it’s not true! Most state pension funds took a terrible beating from their stock and bond holdings during the last 12 months. The federal government wants to drain them some more? Holy Shit, that could be terrible.
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August 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
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August 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
There have been rumblings of this for the past 3 or 4 months. I believe it’s on the way.
August 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Good roundup of information.
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August 25th, 2009 at 12:34 am
I would call for the execution of any member of congress who votes for a treason like take-over such as this. If the member of congress is not available than ANY family member is to be considered “fair game” and executed in place of said member of congress – to send a message. Once the offending member of congress is back in his/her home district than they too shall be executed. This is my opinion. StevenKY
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August 25th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Is that like when Reagan started the trend to “steal” money from social security to balance his budget. And then all the presidents except President Clinton followed suit…remember Clinton “BALANCED THE BUDGET” and had a surplus…which can’t be said for Reagan, George the First and George the Second. Oh Hades no George the Second 8 trillion in debt and the Iraqi War not even counted in his mess.
August 25th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I thought Clinton’s “balanced budget” was a product of the Contract With America which was forced upon him??
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August 26th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
tar and feather the theiving bastards.
there will be no town hall discussions on this one.
absolute replacement of congress and the corrupt theives in dc
and back to our roots in the constitution
August 27th, 2009 at 3:54 am
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August 31st, 2009 at 11:38 pm
As a member of a state pension fund, this will be the last straw for me to take up arms and descend on DC. The only thing keeping me going through this Obama takeover of everything American is the fact that I have a pension to look forward to. Want to see a man go postal? Mess with my future more than you have. You already destroyed the nestegg that I thought I had in my house. It’s getting close to fighting time people. Practice your target shooting!